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Offline DaemonForce

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Bearing vs hub
« on: June 01, 2013, 02:59:44 PM »
I have some kind of noise coming from my wheels, don't know if it's front or back but I have enough sense to realize it's probably a combination of them all. I want to start replacing the front. What would be the most appropriate way of going about this? Should I pull the 30 year old wheel hubs and refit them with new bearings or should I just replace hubs in whole? I'm looking at some cheap Omix bearings that look like they would fit but then I look at the Omix wheel hubs and that looks like it would be much easier. Your thoughts?
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Re: Bearing vs hub
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2013, 05:35:08 PM »
you will need new bearings on the front. i had the exact same thing happen you described.
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Re: Bearing vs hub
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2013, 05:37:35 PM »
you will need new bearings on the front. i had the exact same thing happen you described.
That's the cheapest option but how do I go about it? Aren't the bearings pressed into the hubs?

Also what do I do about the back?
1983 Limited
AMC 258C {R2:11.Oct.12}
Carter 2681 {R2:28.Oct.12}
TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 10.5:1
Corrected Idle: 500RPM

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Re: Bearing vs hub
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2013, 05:39:33 PM »
bearings are pressed in the hub. there are two per axle
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Re: Bearing vs hub
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2013, 05:48:29 PM »
Any advice on what I should be looking for? I see a lot of Timken stuff on Partstrain but almost nothing for the Eagle.

For 1983 American Motors Eagle Limited 6 Cyl 4.2L:
Inner bearing TMSET26

For 1986 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer 6 Cyl 2.8L:
Omix wheel bearing O321653621
Omix wheel bearing O321670901
Crown wheel bearing - Front 53000238
Crown wheel bearing - Rear 53000475
Crown wheel bearing - Rear 83501451
1983 Limited
AMC 258C {R2:11.Oct.12}
Carter 2681 {R2:28.Oct.12}
TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 10.5:1
Corrected Idle: 500RPM

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Re: Bearing vs hub
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2013, 06:52:19 PM »
I'm probably wrong on this but as far as I know you can not purchase hubs for the Eagle and the ones for the Jeep are slightly larger or deeper than the spindle will accept. So the options are to buy the bearings and seals and press them onto your hubs or have the spindle machined to accept the Jeep hub. I built my own press for just these bearings.
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Re: Bearing vs hub
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2013, 07:31:27 PM »
Contact Captspillane. He was working on having Eagle hubs machined for Jeep bearings.
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Re: Bearing vs hub
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 09:04:25 AM »
If the bearings are just starting to make some noise, and there is no play, you may be able to regrease your old bearings and replace the seals. Both the front and rear bearings need to be regreased occasionally.

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Re: Bearing vs hub
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2013, 12:13:00 PM »
I don't know how to check for bearing wear and the car is so loud at every speed that it's probably not worth it. I'm willing to bet I might need a new rear axle in the upcoming months if new front bearings doesn't fix it.
1983 Limited
AMC 258C {R2:11.Oct.12}
Carter 2681 {R2:28.Oct.12}
TorqueFlite A998 {R6: -20.Apr.12}
NP129 {R2:28.Apr.12}
M35-273 {???}
Compression: 10.5:1
Corrected Idle: 500RPM

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Re: Bearing vs hub
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2013, 03:27:38 PM »
Lift the wheels one at a time and spin them to see where the noise is coming from. We used to have vibration sensors (basically a microphone and transmitter) that you would attach to the back of all 4 wheels and drive it and the screen tell you where the loudest noise came from (each sensor had a number and the screen had a matching number so it didn't matter which wheel you put them on)
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