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90 degree speedometer cable adapter?
« on: February 28, 2011, 04:02:06 AM »
Anyone know of where I might be able to find a 90 degree speedometer cable adapter? My second speedometer cable broke tonight, leaving me without a vss, meaning the car stalls in traffic while rolling every time I pull out of gear into neutral (manual trans). That gets irritating in a hurry. I've seen the ones made for the screw in style transfer case openings, but our t-cases, and the NP249 I have, do not have the threaded orifice. Converting to an electric speedometer is way too costly for me at the moment. ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: 90 degree speedometer cable adapter?
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 05:53:15 PM »
Tougeagle, there's (at least there was) an outfit in Denver called DeLuxe Speedometer. They used to be on Speer Blvd. near Bannock, in an old odd-shaped brick garage. They moved out behind the Sapp Brothers truck stop off I-70 & Quebec several years ago. They are (if they still exist) quite pricey but they are masters of the cable-driven speedometer and all things dashboard instrumentation. If they're still around they will set you right up. They at least used to get quite a bit of their trade on antique and classic cars whose speedometers and gauges needed restoration.
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Re: 90 degree speedometer cable adapter?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 03:13:24 AM »
Tougeagle, there's (at least there was) an outfit in Denver called DeLuxe Speedometer. They used to be on Speer Blvd. near Bannock, in an old odd-shaped brick garage. They moved out behind the Sapp Brothers truck stop off I-70 & Quebec several years ago. They are (if they still exist) quite pricey but they are masters of the cable-driven speedometer and all things dashboard instrumentation. If they're still around they will set you right up. They at least used to get quite a bit of their trade on antique and classic cars whose speedometers and gauges needed restoration.

No can do on the whole pricey thing :( Thanks for the suggestion though.. in the future when I have decent money I may check them out for some custom work... I think I've got it figured out though. The Dodge Dakota speed sensor I have screwed into a housing that fits in the same hole that we have in our t-cases, (interchangeable with jeep tcases) on which there is a shaft with the speedo gear. I need to pick up one of those, and a dakota speedometer cable housing, with the two threaded ends. That way I can pick up a universal GM/Jeep 90 degree adapter and problem solved.... If/when I can get it done, I'll post a writeup. Gotta get it done soon though, tired of havig to turn the car on again every time I go into neutral :(
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Re: 90 degree speedometer cable adapter?
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 10:09:30 PM »
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Re: 90 degree speedometer cable adapter?
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2011, 02:44:22 AM »
found this link in a different post hope it helps.
http://www.transmissioncenter.net/speedometer_calibration_______va.htm#90%20Degree

Egged for the link :D That's EXACTLY what I need......



Okay, so since I know now that all the parts I'd like to use are obtainable, here's the deal... I will use a universal cable with the 7/8" sending unit side, 5/8" speedo side, at least 81" long. One side will attach to the VSS attached to my speedometer (vss threading is 5/8 and I have yet to find a speedo cable 5/8"x5/8" ends), and the other end will attach to the 90 degree adapter at the transfer case. The 90 degree adapter will attach to a Dodge cable driven long shaft speedometer gear housing at the transfer case,  with proper gear, thusly eliminating cable breakage. Once I actually have the 100 bucks to spend on this, I'll make a writeup of it  and edit my EFI writeup accordingly...My bird hates it when I cut corners, and she never fails to let me know....
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Re: 90 degree speedometer cable adapter?
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 12:19:43 PM »
Glad to help! I am putting to gather all the info to swap my 119 for a 229. I have an 85 wagon automatic is there any thing i should watch out for?
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Re: 90 degree speedometer cable adapter?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 01:41:22 AM »
Glad to help! I am putting to gather all the info to swap my 119 for a 229. I have an 85 wagon automatic is there any thing i should watch out for?

From what I remember seeing in other posts the speedometer orifice faces up quite a bit more. I think it also uses a screw on type fitting, but I dunno. I do know there are some writeups on it though....
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Re: 90 degree speedometer cable adapter?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 01:10:34 PM »
It's easier to split the 229 case and drill and tap it to reclock the tail shaft housing. That's what I did. I tried using the back half of my 128 on the 229 but the hole for the rod that the low range is connected to, was too small.
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