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Offline Amc1320

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Hitch options
« on: January 12, 2013, 08:48:38 PM »
Can some of you post a pic or two of your hitch, what you took it off of, how you modified it?

I have one of the factory bumper mount ones, have never put it on, I'm not sure it's very strong,

I don't want to tow anything huge, have a little trailer to haul stuff, maybe tow another eagle home  ;)


Thanks, the pics really help me a lot, if I can see it I can make it, usually
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2013, 09:59:23 PM »
Rob, I have a hitch that I made for my Eagle that is sitting in the shed. It's a bolt on on deal. Next time we get together I'll bring it and see if you want  to use it. I've towed 2,000 lbs with it without an issue.

Edit- Now that I think about it, I might have stole some of the steel from the hitch for another project. I'll check when I get home from work tomorrow and see if it's still intact.
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2013, 10:30:07 PM »
Thanks Rick,

Even if you stole some, maybe I can add it back

Thats more than big enough for what I need

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2013, 08:11:51 PM »
Sorry I don't have pics anymore of the one I had custom made (4 point mount which said Class 4 but they said it was really class 2 until I upgraded the frame in my trunk) I hauled this bus I turned into a trailer with mine. (top pic)


It weighed 5,000lbs empty and nearly 5 tons loaded (I didn't take it on the highway) for swap meets. I replaced that Eagle with the '83 Cherokee in the bottom pic and used the Mexican 282 motor that was in my Eagle (it was one of the very first stroker motors in '97)
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'87 Comanche 4.0L AW4/NP242 3.73 gears, lifted 5" on near new 33" tires $3500 obo
'82 Eagle Wagon (Brown Betty) 4.2L/727/NP229 and soon 8.25 rear axle and non-vacuum 3.08 front to match. 235/75/15 tires. It's down to minor body work (someone creamed my driver's door but I have another in good shape) almost rust free and interior work (seats are worn and carpet torn). $2000 but about to go up due to more work being done.

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 02:35:47 PM »

AMC Eagle trailer hitch photos: http://home.comcast.net/~eaglewagon//e-Bay/Eagle_hitch.htm

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2013, 03:02:28 PM »
An egg to you good sir!  I've been looking for pictures like this for a few months. 

That's top priority on my to do list once my bird is on the road.  :blob1:

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2013, 03:42:23 PM »
thanks so much for the pics! this is VERY helpful!

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2013, 07:47:48 PM »
Mine was similar to that but had 2 legs that went to either side of the frame too. I put a skid plate for the fuel tank on it.
FOR SALE
'87 Comanche 4.0L AW4/NP242 3.73 gears, lifted 5" on near new 33" tires $3500 obo
'82 Eagle Wagon (Brown Betty) 4.2L/727/NP229 and soon 8.25 rear axle and non-vacuum 3.08 front to match. 235/75/15 tires. It's down to minor body work (someone creamed my driver's door but I have another in good shape) almost rust free and interior work (seats are worn and carpet torn). $2000 but about to go up due to more work being done.

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2013, 07:51:50 PM »
What was the tongue weight on that bus turned trailer?
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2013, 08:04:28 PM »
200 lbs empty. A near perfect balancing act
FOR SALE
'87 Comanche 4.0L AW4/NP242 3.73 gears, lifted 5" on near new 33" tires $3500 obo
'82 Eagle Wagon (Brown Betty) 4.2L/727/NP229 and soon 8.25 rear axle and non-vacuum 3.08 front to match. 235/75/15 tires. It's down to minor body work (someone creamed my driver's door but I have another in good shape) almost rust free and interior work (seats are worn and carpet torn). $2000 but about to go up due to more work being done.

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2013, 09:55:35 PM »
200 lbs empty. A near perfect balancing act
Impressive, I wouldn't expect that.
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2013, 12:36:03 AM »
We used 2 forklifts to move the body on the tandem axle trailer frame (I removed the bus frame and cut it down by 3,000 lbs empty including the Bus axle) The guys at Tork Lift are professional trailer and hitch builders.
FOR SALE
'87 Comanche 4.0L AW4/NP242 3.73 gears, lifted 5" on near new 33" tires $3500 obo
'82 Eagle Wagon (Brown Betty) 4.2L/727/NP229 and soon 8.25 rear axle and non-vacuum 3.08 front to match. 235/75/15 tires. It's down to minor body work (someone creamed my driver's door but I have another in good shape) almost rust free and interior work (seats are worn and carpet torn). $2000 but about to go up due to more work being done.

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2013, 05:04:55 AM »
Draw-Tite AMC Eagle class III trailer hitch: http://home.comcast.net/~eaglewagon//Class-3-Hitch.jpg

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2013, 10:32:33 AM »
Draw-Tite AMC Eagle class III trailer hitch: http://home.comcast.net/~eaglewagon//Class-3-Hitch.jpg

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That's the same one I got from U-Haul a few years back. Very heavy duty, I had no worries towing with that.
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2013, 11:22:29 AM »
Does anyone have a part/model number for that Draw-tite hitch?

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2013, 12:05:59 AM »
I have a Draw-tite class 3 in the attic, will get the prt # off it this week

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2013, 05:25:02 AM »
I have a Draw-tite class 3 in the attic, will get the prt # off it this week

want to sell that hitch?
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2013, 01:20:44 AM »
does anybody know if a hitch from an sx4 will fit a wagon?

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2013, 08:20:03 AM »
I thought that the SX/4 only had the Class I ball hitch?
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2013, 11:12:18 AM »
The bumper-mount hitches (Class I) will transfer. I've never seen any other available for the small cars.
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2013, 10:45:32 PM »
The bumper-mount hitches (Class I) will transfer. I've never seen any other available for the small cars.
All class 3 hitches mount the same way and use the same bolt holes on all the Eagles (SX4, wagon, sedan), so they should interchange.
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2013, 10:59:02 PM »
The rear frame isn't as long. The Class 3 I had on my wagon wouldn't fit the SX4 my neighbor had (or I could've sold it back then)
FOR SALE
'87 Comanche 4.0L AW4/NP242 3.73 gears, lifted 5" on near new 33" tires $3500 obo
'82 Eagle Wagon (Brown Betty) 4.2L/727/NP229 and soon 8.25 rear axle and non-vacuum 3.08 front to match. 235/75/15 tires. It's down to minor body work (someone creamed my driver's door but I have another in good shape) almost rust free and interior work (seats are worn and carpet torn). $2000 but about to go up due to more work being done.

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2013, 02:14:17 PM »
Only part number I could find on it was on the load rating sticker. It's a Draw-tite V-5 hitch #01561

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2013, 09:26:42 PM »
The rear frame isn't as long. The Class 3 I had on my wagon wouldn't fit the SX4 my neighbor had (or I could've sold it back then)
That is odd, because the one I have bolts to the same two 1/2" horizontal bolts that hold the bumper (shock?) in, and the 4 bolts (2 on each side) on the bumper mounts.  As far as I know, all the Eagles use the same mounts back there. I can't see why the bolts would be in a different spot on the SX4's and wagons.
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2013, 08:44:47 AM »
The rear frame isn't as long. The Class 3 I had on my wagon wouldn't fit the SX4 my neighbor had (or I could've sold it back then)
That is odd, because the one I have bolts to the same two 1/2" horizontal bolts that hold the bumper (shock?) in, and the 4 bolts (2 on each side) on the bumper mounts.

That is really odd, mine bolts to the rear sill and bottom of the frame rail.

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2013, 10:36:54 AM »
This is what my Class III looks like:


It's the kind that connects to the subframe under the back of the car.
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2013, 10:47:00 AM »
This is what my Class III looks like:


It's the kind that connects to the subframe under the back of the car.
I would call that one a universal fit, and needs to have holes drilled.  The two I have both bolt in using the factory holes and bolts, with no holes needed to be drilled.
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2013, 01:30:28 AM »
The Class 4 I had was from the Jeep dealer and had a cross brace that attached behind the fuel tank and went from the frame on one side to the other. (you can see the bus I hauled with mine on the previous page)
FOR SALE
'87 Comanche 4.0L AW4/NP242 3.73 gears, lifted 5" on near new 33" tires $3500 obo
'82 Eagle Wagon (Brown Betty) 4.2L/727/NP229 and soon 8.25 rear axle and non-vacuum 3.08 front to match. 235/75/15 tires. It's down to minor body work (someone creamed my driver's door but I have another in good shape) almost rust free and interior work (seats are worn and carpet torn). $2000 but about to go up due to more work being done.

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2013, 03:59:53 AM »
I would say that ifyour going to haul a heavy item around such as a bus to not overload the brakes.
btw it is easy to overload an eagles brakes.

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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2013, 10:58:58 AM »
This is what my Class III looks like:


It's the kind that connects to the subframe under the back of the car.
I would call that one a universal fit, and needs to have holes drilled.  The two I have both bolt in using the factory holes and bolts, with no holes needed to be drilled.

It's definitely just for Eagles (and maybe Concords/Hornets), but I think the only holes I drilled were to insert nuts because captured nuts weren't there.

It's definitely a Class III, and the Class II factory hitches didn't bolt back to the subframe. I believe it's really a Draw-Tite manufactured item sold by U-Haul.

There were certainly other manufacturers that made them differently, but I don't know of them offhand.
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Re: Hitch options
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2013, 04:39:25 PM »
I would say that ifyour going to haul a heavy item around such as a bus to not overload the brakes.
btw it is easy to overload an eagles brakes.

So I found out. I upgraded the brakes with Grand Cherokee calipers and pads in front and the rear axle was AMC Model 20 (I replaced the original rear diff when an axle snapped after being hit by someone backing out of a parking spot) from a Matador wagon. It had electric brakes on the trailer too.
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'87 Comanche 4.0L AW4/NP242 3.73 gears, lifted 5" on near new 33" tires $3500 obo
'82 Eagle Wagon (Brown Betty) 4.2L/727/NP229 and soon 8.25 rear axle and non-vacuum 3.08 front to match. 235/75/15 tires. It's down to minor body work (someone creamed my driver's door but I have another in good shape) almost rust free and interior work (seats are worn and carpet torn). $2000 but about to go up due to more work being done.

Pics of my other for sale stuff http://tinyurl.com/jimsclads

 

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